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What a powerful night.

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When you talk about power, you talk
about powerful men

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and a powerful industry.

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They were the greatest tag team in the
history of this

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business.

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Nobody was tougher, nobody was stronger,
nobody was more intimidating.

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Our business is beating people up. In
WWE, they were the Legion of Doom.

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Prior to that, they were the Road
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Take on a warrior, we'll slap you right
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In either case, they were ass -kicking
machines.

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They don't have any regard for
themselves, they have no regard for

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It was hardcore.

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Every night.

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You had Animal.

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Anybody, anywhere, anytime.

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And you had Hawk.

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You did me.

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It's almost like they were just tied
together.

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But behind the curtain, they were
completely opposite.

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The charms of James, like Daddy does in
the ring.

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He just was always there and just always
so loving.

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You know, I was Mr. Joe Straight and
Narrow and Hawk was Mr. Whew.

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Total excess, everything he did.

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Three times he was rushed into an ER for
drug overdoses. Could have died.

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At that point, I was really pissed at
him. Felt like I was being deserted by

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partner.

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It got to the point where he's like, I
can't babysit anymore.

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But they needed each other.

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The beauty of them was together, not
separate.

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They were brothers.

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He goes, Joe, I love you.

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I said, brother, I love you too, Mike.

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I didn't think I was going to get upset,
but it was a very, it was very

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emotional.

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I never got to say goodbye.

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The greatest team of our time, the
greatest team of all time.

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They were the best that there was.

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Well, this is where it all began.

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Six kids in the family, and Mike was
number five.

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Mike as a kid, mischievous, always in
trouble for something.

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A kid just running around and playing,
but a little harder and a little heavier

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than everyone else.

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He wasn't a troubled kid, you know,
growing up, but, I mean, he was.

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For whatever reason, he liked to fight.

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That was, you know, I mean, that was
Mike's sport, you know, was kind of

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fighting. He had a very short temper. I
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probably going to knock you out.

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There was that fighting time in his life
in high school and everything, and it

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seemed like he was trying to prove
something to himself or whatever.

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Psychologists would have fun with it, I
think.

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And he used...

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Alcohol and pot and things like that. I
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the world. But he was just really a good
guy.

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If you were his friend, he would do
anything for you.

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And that's one thing that he valued and
that he kept through his whole

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career was his friends.

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Check. One, two, three, four.

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Hawk and I grew up in Minneapolis.

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We went to two different high schools
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the city.

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Here we are, a little bit of nostalgia.

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This is Hawk's all neighborhood here.

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My dad and Hawk lived fairly close.

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Like, I think they could have ran into
each other at, like, any moment in time.

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It was just they hadn't yet.

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My dad, of course, in his high school
years, played football.

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Joe was highlighted in the Minneapolis
Star Tribune as an all -conference

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football player out of Irondale High
School.

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At the time, I was at Golden Valley
Lutheran College playing football.

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I was part of the recruiting team.

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I told him who I was, invited him over
for a night to tour the campus and see

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if he would entertain the idea of coming
and playing football with us.

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And he made a decision to come.

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I met Joe Laranitis here in 1978 in the
fall when school started.

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And after that, it was love at first
sight.

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He was a very good football player, but
that didn't quite work out.

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Life went a different direction for him.

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That's when he found out Nancy got
pregnant.

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So he was going to do the noble thing
and drop out of college and marry Nancy.

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That was just the right thing to do.

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I found out that we were going to have a
boy, and then we had Joey in February

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of 1981.

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It was like just a light switch. He just
stopped doing whatever he was doing and

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just became a dad, as simple as that.

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I know that he and Joey's mom tried to
be together and stay together and

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everything, and I understand that that
didn't work out, but they were able to

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parents at such a young age, and I think
they did a pretty good job.

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We ended up getting divorced in 1982.

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Now I think back, and I'm like, yeah, we
were young.

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Now you're a brand -new father.

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You're 20 years old.

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What was going to be his future?

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Growing up, my dad was, he was more of
the fatherly figure that was a provider.

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My mom was probably a little bit more
the one that gave the love, I guess.

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Our mom died young, 57.

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She was a sweetheart.

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Yep, yep.

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Yeah, she had a real heart.

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And Mike was, you know, like, just out
of high school.

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I didn't know how much it affected him,
but some of his friends told me that it

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really had a hard time.

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That was his time of transition. What am
I going to do in life, you know? And

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his direction was a little lost.

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He also didn't like school. He didn't
care for school.

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And that's where he started in his whole
workout regimen.

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In Minneapolis.

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There was a gym that became known as the
Mecca of the Midwest called simply The

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Gym. All right, here we are. We're at
The Gym.

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13 ,500 square feet of the toughest
powerlifters, bodybuilders,

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anything you want in the state of
Minnesota is right here.

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One day, I go to The Gym.

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Mike happens to be there.

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And I'm doing incline. I'm doing like
315 or 350 with my dad on the incline.

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He looks at me and he goes, you're not
right.

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He goes, the young kid should not be
doing that. He just opened hands and

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whack!

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You know, and from there, you know, we
became real good friends.

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You know, once they kind of met
officially, then it just kind of became

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they were just meant to be.

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They met at the gym, but at the same
time, they were bouncing at the bars.

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I can't remember, was it Grandma Bee's
or whatever he used to talk about all

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time? Well, here we are at the infamous
Grandma B's.

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They loved it because they got to get
paid to beat people up. That's what we

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were known for. We were like old dogs
backed up in a corner. We were vicious.

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Also for my dad, I think he was honestly
willing to do whatever he needed to do

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to, you know, pay for diapers, pay for
whatever, you know, whatever the little

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baby Joey needed.

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Here we are at the Baltimore Civic
Center, Baltimore, Maryland, talking to

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wrestling fans coming to see Georgia
Championship Wrestling.

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Meanwhile, Ole Anderson, a legendary
wrestler and promoter in Georgia

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Championship Wrestling, sees a movie,
Mad Max, The Road Warrior.

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It puts a light bulb over his head and
gives him the idea for a tag team.

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A guy named Eddie Sharkey is a trainer
who's also working as a bartender at

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Grandma B's.

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And he knows Ole Anderson, the promoter.
And Anderson one day calls Eddie

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Sharkey and says, I'm looking for a
couple of guys.

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Ole comes to Minneapolis, meets with
Eddie Sharkey at Grandma B's, and says,

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hey, who you got?

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You know, I need some talent.

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Who do you have?

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Oh, he sees Joe and Mike, and he thinks,
there they are. Like, that's it.

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And from then on there, you know, we
went into the wrestling camp that Eddie

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Sharkey had. We went there three months
straight, five days a week, and we

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really beat the heck out of each other.

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So now they get called down south to
Georgia Championship Wrestling as the

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Warriors. We're too guy.

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that just happened to be tough guys, to
go directly from bouncing to maybe a

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smidge of training, and then to Georgia
Championship Wrestling, which was one of

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the top professional wrestling
territories in the country at that

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totally unheard of.

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They literally just took this chance and
didn't even know what was going to come

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of it.

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Mike, at that point in his life, was
still wandering.

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You know, Joe from the get -go was this
family guy.

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So much harder for Joe than it would
have been for Mike because Mike had

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to lose.

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But for my dad, you know, you're
potentially leaving a job, leaving a

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like, what are you doing?

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It was kind of a weird spot for him
where it just felt like it was like, now

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what?

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The Road Warriors.

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Here they are at Georgia Championship
Wrestling.

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First things first, they needed a
manager.

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I want to take a moment, if I may, to
talk to Precious Paul Ellering. Here's a

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gentleman who has made... Oh, yes,
rumors about... Oli pulled me aside with

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and said, these are going to be your
boys.

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First, we molded the look.

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It just started with face paint first.

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Then Hawk said one day, Joe, you know,
you should get a mohawk, and then I'll

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get the double mohawk, and then our
heads will be one.

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Two make one.

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Then we said, come up with names, and
Uli points to Animal, and he says, you

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look like an animal.

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Hawk said, I think I'm a hawk.

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Which one's which?

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This is Hawk, this is Animal.

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They were natural heels.

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Bad guys.

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They had the face paint. They had the
hair.

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They had the names.

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The only thing they needed was the song.

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Their music for the ring entrance, that
song would set the tone.

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The Road Warriors getting set to move
into the ring.

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A big, impressive pair of individuals.

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You felt like two monsters from hell
were coming out of the back of that

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dangling dressing room and going to
wreak havoc.

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When they first came in, you see them,
it's just, wow.

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Look out.

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These two guys were the coolest things
that I'd ever seen.

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Just badass.

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Brother, you talk about vicious, bizarre
individuals.

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They were taking people's heads off.

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It wasn't old school wrestling. Grab a
hold, work the hold.

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I mean, what happened to professional
wrestling? These guys are just rough and

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tough. Animal and Hawk completely turned
the tables over. Now it was slam, bam,

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in your face, man.

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Y 'all better get used to this, because
it's coming down, baby. They were

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themselves.

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That's who they were.

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We did it all our life. We've always got
our way. I was slapping people since I

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was yea high to a grasshopper. They
forgot.

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This is not real. This is make -believe.

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Ooh, brother. I have never seen anybody
as completely vicious and as

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overwhelming as a road boy.

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They just rolled with it. Once the ball
got rolling, it just picked up speed.

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You're looking at one of the most
dynamic, trend -setting courses in the

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of wrestling today.

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Where it's going to take us, I cannot
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The Road Warriors were so successful
early on that...

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They were able to work successfully in
Georgia Championship Wrestling, in Jim

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Crockett Promotions, National Wrestling
Alliance, and AWA. They were able to do

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it all, and it just meant more exposure
for the Road Warriors.

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At that time, cable TV, that changed
everything.

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Coming up next, the Road Warriors, right
here on ESPN.

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And cable TV, when it started to spread
across the United States, everybody

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could see wrestling.

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I'm here in Dallas at the Reunion
Center. We've got the greatest talent in

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world. I've got the Road Warriors, you
name it, and they're here tonight.

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So it made regular stars superstars.

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Would you come here to see the Road
Warriors?

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I watch these guys get big fast.

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I want to see the Road Warriors!

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I was like, oh, my God. You know, these
guys are monsters now.

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And that's when I heard the roar.

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The reaction from the fans, it was
something

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else every night.

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They were bad apples, bad guys.

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But fans loved it.

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It was huge.

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They had the look that gets the look.

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They had the it fat.

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And they just fed off of each other.

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There's got to be a rumble tonight.

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Because we're the warriors.

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That's right.

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They had chemistry.

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Ying and yang.

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Tell them, brother. Hey!

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Hawk and I had a unique telepathy, man.
We were two guys they found in the

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wrestling business and put together.

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We were two guys that were friends. We
bounced.

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We worked out together.

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We'd known each other for years. So I
think that gave us a little bit of an

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edge. Notice how Hawk and the Animal tag
in and tag out. Watch this.

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Oh!

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It's almost like, I don't know, they
were just tied together.

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Animal, Hawk, as a team, they were
great. These men are the most

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team I've seen in my career.

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But behind the curtain, they were
completely opposite.

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Joey lived with his mother, but Joe
would see him all the time.

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He missed him when he was on the road.
It was hard. It really was hard for him.

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He was a very good father and always
wanted to

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be with him and see him. And as much as
he traveled, he saw Joey as much as

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possible. You see life different when
you're a parent.

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And Hawk didn't have children, so, you
know, that was a difference.

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I think Joe was more subdued.

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Hawk was more of a fiery type of guy,
you know.

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He would go out at night.

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At first it was just drinking.

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And Hawk always had a good time.

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But Animal was the one that the
promotion always knew could reel him

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make sure that they made their shows and
did the things that they were going to

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do. They were two drastically different

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wired people.

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Hawk really was able to jump right on
that lightning bolt in the life of the

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fast lane and turn it up about three
more notches.

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While in the short term, if one member
of a tag team wants to have a certain

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lifestyle and the other wants to live a
completely opposite lifestyle,

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That can be fine, but it's really not
sustainable.

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Eventually, something could give.

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Russia and the United States have always
been at it for years and years, and the

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Cold War continued in 1985.

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Now, for the business.

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Immensum. Perfect time for the Russians
to come.

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Introducing first, from the Soviet
Union, Ivan Koloff and

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Krusher Grushin.

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The Great American Bash in 1985 was a
huge deal.

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You had 27 ,000 Americans, all with one
thing in common.

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They hated Russia.

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The Russians, in our culture, they were
the bad guys.

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And then when you have the road
warriors, this

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hard American, take no prisoners, and
you Russians, you want to try something,

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we're just going to knock the L .A.

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People wanted...

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The Russians, to really get beat up,
they want the road warriors to beat them

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up. The road warriors are our bad guys.

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Both teams have been disqualified. A
double disqualification.

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Even though the match ended in a draw,
the road warriors went from being bad

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guys to now being good guys.

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That entire interaction with the
Russians ends up making the road

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more beloved.

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So now

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they're more popular in a much better
position when it comes to dealing with

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guy who decides how much money they'll
make, the man with the checkbook, Jim

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Crockett. Let's bring in Mr. Jim
Crockett, president of Jim Crockett

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Animal and Hawk wanted guaranteed
contracts.

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So we talked to Jimmy, and he was going
to come up with a deal.

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And so before we did the deal, we got
ahold of Vince. I got ahold of Vince.

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You know they're going to meet with
Vince.

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Why not? I mean, you know, they're going
to go back and forth to see what they

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can get.

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Well, you have to remember, the mid-'80s
were gigantic for WWE.

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The involvement with celebrities like
Cyndi Lauper and Mr. T and the eventual

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formation of this event called
WrestleMania completely transformed WWE

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wrestling business as we knew it. And
this, of course, plays right into the

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Warriors' hands.

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They can now threaten Crockett with the
idea that they could defect to WWE if

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they want to.

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We're going to be the ones walking out.
You're the ones that are going to be

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laying. And Vince, he said, I'd really
like to have you, but I just can't give

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out guarantees.

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Nobody here has one. So we said, okay.

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And then right before he leaves, he
says, you know, I know you're

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with Crockett.

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If you want to use me, you can in the
negotiations.

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And we went back, and Jimmy came up with
a very nice deal for us.

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And it was guaranteed.

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Mr. Crockett, you've been a very busy
man with some very successful

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negotiations. I'm a very happy man right
now, Jim.

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Animal and Hawk both got $500 ,000 per
year for three

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years. And that was money in the bank.
You know, nobody was getting that kind

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money back then.

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Guaranteed.

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How would you handle the success and the
success they had?

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There are ways of handling and coping
with that success and your choice of how

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you move forward with this.

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You know, they just, a different way of
going about doing things.

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We actually lived two different
lifestyles.

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You know, I was Mr. Joe Straight and
Narrow, and Hawk was Mr. Whew.

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Hawk, you know, he enjoyed the
nightlife.

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He started to become full speed, man. He
was searching for good timing most

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of the time he followed it.

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He made no secret about his reputation
outside the ring in terms of, you know,

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the party life.

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I went to the ring and things were kind
of hazy. Everything seemed a little bit

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slowed down.

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But I never saw it impede his
performance in the ring.

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during that point.

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So no one knew

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at the time that it was going to take on
a life of its own and become this

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growing issue.

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Hawk was drinking a lot.

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And then, you know, it progressed.

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We started obviously doing a lot of
substances and stuff.

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You know, at the time, you don't look at
it the way we reflect on it now.

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There wasn't any real discussion of,
hey, you think you should cut back or

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whatever. Hawk was going to be Hawk, and
that's how he rolled and the guys he

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rolled with.

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So we didn't.

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really see the dangers and where it was
headed.

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Joe and I met at the gym.

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A friend of mine from high school, we
decided we wanted to lift weights, and

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were at a club that the women lifted on
one side and the men worked out on the

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other side, and we would always go to
the men's side, and they didn't like

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But Joe kind of fought the fight for it,
so that was the beginning there.

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Very soon after he met her, I could tell
he was smitten, as they say.

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They were very happy together.

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That would eventually lead to marriage.
That would eventually lead to James and

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Jessica, the two children they would
have together.

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And even when he married Julie,

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he never really lost touch with Joey.

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He still had a responsibility to raise
him while starting a new family and

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eventually raising James and Jessica.

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He made sure that we knew that we were
loved. Like, family was number

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one out of anything that he was doing.

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I think

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the most important thing was just,

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So when he came home, it was all about
family, and Hawk did his own thing.

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Oh, Mike is Mike. He's just crazy.

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But a very caring, extremely caring,
loving person.

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He had an amazing heart.

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Hawk was the best.

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To know Hawk is to love Hawk.

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One day, we were in midtown New York,
and there was a guy.

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In an alley in Hawk, he stops and he
gives a guy $100.

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That's the way Hawk was.

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He would give you the shirt off his
back.

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I was in the NWA and I was making like
$500, $600 a week. And I got a tax bill.

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And it was like $500 for that old back
tax.

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And Hawk seen me sitting over there. He
said, what's the matter? And I said,

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well, it's Scott.

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Stuff I got to take care of. I told him
what was going on, and he said, man,

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don't worry about it. Gave me 500 bucks
for someone at the time whose character

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was larger and bigger than life.

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The guy, he had a heart.

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He was a great guy, super nice guy.

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But Hawk would go out two, three days at
a time and not sleep and party nonstop

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with some stimulants and things, yeah.

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Three times he was rushed into an ER for
drug overdoses. Three times.

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O .D. could have died.

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Drug overdoses.

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A head -on collision with an 18
-wheeler, driving an old pickup truck

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seatbelt, and rolled the truck six times
and walked away without a scratch.

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One time, him and a buddy, northern
Minnesota, November, cold, snow, icy

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lake, falls out of the boat, drunk as a
skunk.

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He's sinking, sinking, sinking.

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Mike said he's looking up, and it's
pitch dark, and he sees like a pin

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And he's like, I don't know what that
is, but whatever it is, if I don't make

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to that pin light, I'm done. Like, I'm
dead.

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I'm done.

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And he gives a last -ditch effort. Well,
what it was was his buddy found a

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flashlight in the boat and was shining
the flashlight.

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In the water.

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And that's what saved Mike, was the
flashlight.

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In his effort to get to that pin light,
his buddy grabbed him and pulled him in

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the boat.

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And that saved him that night, that
flashlight.

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At the time, Joe kind of started to
get...

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You know, frustrated with Mike.

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It got to be a heavy load sometimes.

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I wanted to live up to the respect that
our name had in the business.

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But Joe definitely had a loyalty to
Mike, a loyalty to the business, and a

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loyalty to the Road Warriors.

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No matter.

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How much Mike started to go off the
rail, Joe was able to reel him back in

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keep him focused and on track to what,
you know, what the ultimate goal for the

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two of them was.

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A brother can talk to another brother. I
mean, come on, we got this opportunity.

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Let's, you know, get it and let's get it
going.

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I think Hawk accepted when there were
some things said. You know, he knew what

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the deal was and he got in line. But I
think they...

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They understood each other.

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Hawk was there for the match.

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Had to have a couple cups of coffee and
go.

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This event is for the world's tag team
championship.

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My God, look at this.

427
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:35,860
Their career continued to really just
blossom.

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They were still hot, real hot.

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00:29:47,180 --> 00:29:48,180
Hey,

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Road Warriors, now you guys are invited
to my party Saturday too, you know. We

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don't mingle, we mangle.

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00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,060
They were able to take this meteor rise
to the top and stay on top.

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The number one team in wrestling, of
course, the incomparable Road Warriors.

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00:30:04,220 --> 00:30:07,980
The early Road Warrior days, you know,
first they didn't have the shoulder

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00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,780
but then they really dialed it in,
right? They got those shoulder pads.

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Spikes on him.

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00:30:14,350 --> 00:30:15,430
It was amazing.

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I loved it. It was hardcore, Dad.

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00:30:19,270 --> 00:30:25,150
And then I think Mike's wit came out on
the interviews.

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We live life on the edge.

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00:30:28,210 --> 00:30:29,470
What a rush.

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00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:31,330
Oh, what a rush.

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00:30:31,670 --> 00:30:34,410
Hawk came up with it. It was in a movie.

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It was great. Fans loved it.

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00:30:46,090 --> 00:30:50,790
By this point, the Road Warriors are
just that tag team. They're clicking on

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cylinders, hot as can be.

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00:30:52,730 --> 00:30:53,730
Road Warriors!

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00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:58,250
They're number one! They're the champs!
The Warriors!

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00:30:59,290 --> 00:31:01,350
You know, they had conquered the AWA.

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00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:06,610
You know, there was the NWA and then WCW
and the WWE.

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00:31:06,890 --> 00:31:09,170
I think it's something that they always
wanted.

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00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:10,590
There's only one.

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to measure your success and tag team
wrestling and that to go up against the

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best so you know how you rate.

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00:31:18,660 --> 00:31:23,040
At that particular time, we needed to
take the next step and go to the Big

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Daddy, which everybody was calling the
WWE, the Big Daddy, and make our

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there.

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The guys wanted to leave for WWE because
pride has to drive you and you're proud

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that you are the best.

460
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,300
You're proud that nobody else can do
what you do.

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00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,460
And I said, you guys go, but I'm going
to finish out my contract.

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Because I've always been a man of my
word.

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00:31:56,660 --> 00:31:59,400
So it was time to go separate ways.

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It was tough.

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Because I'm the dad.

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And they're my boys.

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And that's what started the ball rolling
to move on.

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I love Vince McMahon. Welcome to the
superstars of wrestling.

469
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:29,960
Vince McMahon wanted to get the Road
Warriors up to the WWE, but they had

470
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:35,800
such a good deal and the money they were
making that the WWE couldn't match

471
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,040
because Vince did not guarantee money.

472
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:45,680
but the Road Warriors had already hit
the ceiling at WCW, so they decided at

473
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:51,040
that point to make the move to WWE so
that they could be more than what they

474
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:57,320
were. They call themselves the Legion of

475
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:04,080
Doom! The Road Warriors was a name that
was associated with the movie, so

476
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,080
it was...

477
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:11,600
difficult to clear legally, and since
WWE being a global company, you want to

478
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,840
have a name that you can clear, and
Legion of Doom was something that we

479
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,840
get cleared.

480
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:22,960
When

481
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:29,840
they did

482
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,620
arrive, they...

483
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,120
took the place by storm they

484
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:45,060
just

485
00:33:45,060 --> 00:33:50,580
went out there and just ran through
people they beat the hell out of

486
00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:54,540
they got in the ring with the only
reason they beat the hell out of

487
00:33:54,540 --> 00:33:56,920
was they didn't know what else to do

488
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:11,860
Both, Joe and Mike, they were intense as
hell. But when you get them out of the

489
00:34:11,860 --> 00:34:16,420
ring, they were also wonderful people.

490
00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:18,540
How's the food here, Joe?

491
00:34:19,540 --> 00:34:21,340
Any limitations?

492
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:26,360
Mike enjoyed being around fans.

493
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:43,880
He had a heart of gold.

494
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:47,760
That's just the kind of guy he was. He
had a heart that was bigger than

495
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,960
He could light up a room when he came in
there, I don't know, for whatever

496
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,960
reason.

497
00:35:04,940 --> 00:35:11,660
Great guy, but Mike had demons that
would prevent him from making good

498
00:35:11,660 --> 00:35:12,660
choices.

499
00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:22,880
It just got to the point where in the
90s, it was total excess, everything he

500
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,880
did, you know.

501
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,900
If we'd go out drinking, it would just,
he would drink to the point where, you

502
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:31,160
know, he would just not stop.

503
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,940
It was tough to watch sometimes.

504
00:35:36,620 --> 00:35:38,560
Luke the Bushwalker had a beach house.

505
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,840
The pool was behind the townhouses.

506
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,020
and people would put lawn chairs on this
side of the pool, and the beach was out

507
00:35:49,020 --> 00:35:53,620
there. So they had their bags to the
pool, and they were hooking out on the

508
00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:59,240
beach. And so when my wife and I pulled
up, I see Hawk crawling towards the deep

509
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:00,240
end of the pool.

510
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,860
I think he's just screwing around, you
know, having fun.

511
00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:06,380
I saw him, like, go in the deep end of
the pool and slither and slide down the

512
00:36:06,380 --> 00:36:07,380
pool like a snake.

513
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,920
I was getting my bags out of the car,
and as I walked by, he's on the bottom

514
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,920
the pool.

515
00:36:13,970 --> 00:36:15,710
there, like, sleeping on the bottom of
the pool.

516
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:19,830
So my wife said, oh, my God, is he
playing around? She goes, no, go get

517
00:36:20,650 --> 00:36:25,410
So I went, I got him and pulled him out
of the pool, and I guess he'd eaten a

518
00:36:25,410 --> 00:36:28,050
bunch of things that were putting him to
sleep, you know.

519
00:36:28,890 --> 00:36:33,350
And that was a real close call that
time. But I got him out of the pool, and

520
00:36:33,350 --> 00:36:38,010
they resuscitated him and got him going.
And that was the beginning of I knew we

521
00:36:38,010 --> 00:36:39,490
had a problem on our hands.

522
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:49,140
Even though Mike had his vices and his
challenges, still at that point, Joe was

523
00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:50,700
incredibly loyal to Mike.

524
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,700
Joe developed a real love in his heart
for Mike. You know, he certainly wasn't

525
00:36:55,700 --> 00:37:02,700
happy with his choices, but that love
for Mike and not giving up on him or

526
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:04,600
throwing in the towel and saying, you
know what, dude.

527
00:37:05,070 --> 00:37:09,250
I'm tired of your antics. I'm tired of
your life. I'm done.

528
00:37:10,010 --> 00:37:13,550
I'm out of here. You go your way. I'll
go my way. But that wasn't Joe.

529
00:37:15,110 --> 00:37:21,990
It was the bond that's built and forged
in those early

530
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:28,370
years when they didn't have all the
money and building their relationship

531
00:37:28,370 --> 00:37:29,370
together.

532
00:37:30,170 --> 00:37:32,510
Joe wasn't willing to throw in the
towel.

533
00:37:32,970 --> 00:37:33,970
Saw.

534
00:37:34,890 --> 00:37:40,590
An opportunity of hope that Mike could
make a lifestyle change.

535
00:37:42,190 --> 00:37:47,090
And it was thought with Hawk hitting a
couple speed bumps, he'd straighten out.

536
00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:52,410
But he really didn't. It kind of kept
getting worse.

537
00:37:55,970 --> 00:38:02,690
At the time, Mike failed the test, and
the test was for illegal

538
00:38:02,690 --> 00:38:03,690
drugs.

539
00:38:05,290 --> 00:38:06,290
He needs help.

540
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:12,810
We need to get him out of here, and
we'll do whatever it takes to help him

541
00:38:12,810 --> 00:38:14,010
get him on the road back.

542
00:38:15,570 --> 00:38:20,350
We tried rehab, but he just didn't do
it.

543
00:38:21,890 --> 00:38:26,790
After Hawk failed a drug test, the WWE
had to suspend him.

544
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:32,470
They tried to send him to rehab, but
Hawk would not go. He had become a full

545
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:33,550
-blown addict.

546
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,480
and the only one who didn't realize it
was Hawk.

547
00:38:39,340 --> 00:38:41,800
Okay, does everybody understand why
we're here today?

548
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,760
That's right, we're here to talk about
drugs.

549
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,460
Drugs are going to get you nowhere.

550
00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:51,140
All drugs do is ruin you.

551
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,480
They make life real hard.

552
00:38:55,060 --> 00:38:58,720
And instead of going forward, you end up
going backwards.

553
00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:05,310
We did an intervention at one point in
time.

554
00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:11,750
We sat down with him and just told him
how much we love him and are concerned

555
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:13,390
for him and his health.

556
00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:19,930
We were hoping that he would listen and
get some help, that this was not

557
00:39:19,930 --> 00:39:26,490
something he could do on his own and get
some help, and he

558
00:39:26,490 --> 00:39:29,330
didn't.

559
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,620
He was not ready.

560
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:40,320
I think that with Hawk, the way they
used to do interventions was not going

561
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,540
work from the beginning because he's
stubborn, and I think when they said you

562
00:39:43,540 --> 00:39:48,580
can't or you need to or you should, he
went, oh, yeah, I'll show you, because

563
00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:52,220
that was how he was. And so I think he
would run the other direction.

564
00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:59,460
Hawk, at that particular time, he was
making money. One of the top...

565
00:39:59,710 --> 00:40:01,950
Tag teams, if not the top in the world.

566
00:40:02,510 --> 00:40:06,910
Everything you want, you've got, that
you've worked for your whole life.

567
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:11,490
So who knows what's really going on with
somebody's mind or what's happening

568
00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:12,490
inside of you.

569
00:40:12,970 --> 00:40:16,030
I don't know why it turned out the way I
did.

570
00:40:17,070 --> 00:40:24,070
His personality was just, and I think
that is a trait probably in the Higgs

571
00:40:24,070 --> 00:40:27,050
family, there's a bit of it, of
addictions.

572
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:34,560
And then you had money and you had fame
and you had an image to be the wild guy.

573
00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:45,220
And, you know, a lot of us will have the
thing, the little voice that goes off

574
00:40:45,220 --> 00:40:51,980
that says stop. And Mike didn't. And a
lot of that was

575
00:40:51,980 --> 00:40:54,340
fueled by being Hawk.

576
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:06,380
He probably had been fine if he'd stayed
in North Minneapolis and had been more

577
00:41:06,380 --> 00:41:13,100
grounded. But I think Road Warrior Hawk
kind of took over.

578
00:41:13,740 --> 00:41:15,980
And he locked himself in there
somewhere.

579
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:27,960
You know, there were times when he would
come home and he was high and you just,

580
00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:30,640
you didn't really want to be around him.

581
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:40,920
So it was a sad time because you just
knew this wasn't going in a good

582
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,920
direction.

583
00:41:56,170 --> 00:41:59,910
At the time, Legion of Doom, they were
popular.

584
00:42:00,190 --> 00:42:01,670
They were very popular.

585
00:42:02,050 --> 00:42:06,430
Legion of Doom with the opportunity of a
lifetime tonight as they meet the nasty

586
00:42:06,430 --> 00:42:09,270
boys for the World Wrestling Federation
tag team titles.

587
00:42:09,570 --> 00:42:10,770
They were attractions.

588
00:42:11,550 --> 00:42:13,230
They drew money.

589
00:42:13,790 --> 00:42:20,770
And they delivered when they got into
the

590
00:42:20,770 --> 00:42:21,770
ring.

591
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:09,300
That SummerSlam of 1991 really was the
pinnacle of everything that those two

592
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:10,300
accomplished.

593
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,900
That was the peak.

594
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,620
What a moment for Legion of Doom!

595
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,980
Legion of Doom getting those tag titles
in WWE, that's a big deal.

596
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:23,880
At that point, Legion of Doom were it.

597
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,400
Here we are at Toys R Us and it's the
Legion of Doom!

598
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,760
Oh yeah, dude!

599
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:38,030
You know, they had other business going.
They had, like, their own clothing

600
00:43:38,030 --> 00:43:42,790
line. This company not only has a good
product, it has a great gimmick. They're

601
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:45,110
partners in a company called Zubaz.

602
00:43:45,530 --> 00:43:49,670
Those pants were one of the most popular
pieces of apparel, like, in the world.

603
00:43:49,890 --> 00:43:53,310
Their company grossed about $20 million
last year.

604
00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:57,270
They were kind of like pioneers, you
know, parlaying their fame into other

605
00:43:57,270 --> 00:44:00,050
ventures. They were in it together with
everything.

606
00:44:00,570 --> 00:44:06,190
As for Hawk and Animal, they've learned
how to succeed inside the ring and out,

607
00:44:06,290 --> 00:44:09,990
and they have no intention of losing in
either one.

608
00:44:14,310 --> 00:44:20,950
At the time, Hawk was still struggling
with his demons, and I

609
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:25,750
think his lifestyle was taking a toll on
him for sure, mentally and physically.

610
00:44:27,610 --> 00:44:28,990
Joe, what's his babysitter?

611
00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:34,120
You know, he would try really hard, but
it got to the point where he's like, I

612
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,720
can't babysit anymore.

613
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,640
Paul Ellery, welcome to WrestleMania.

614
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,820
I have returned!

615
00:44:47,180 --> 00:44:50,420
Animal felt that Hawk was better when I
was around.

616
00:44:51,020 --> 00:44:55,120
They said, well, it sure would be nice
to have you back, and next thing you

617
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,120
know, I got a phone call.

618
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,460
Paul was also a great role model for
them, and so I think with Hawk, I think

619
00:45:02,460 --> 00:45:06,460
that they were kind of hoping that maybe
the two of them together could kind of,

620
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,580
you know, hone him in a little bit.

621
00:45:13,020 --> 00:45:17,540
At that time, Paul Ellering had a
brilliant idea.

622
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:26,580
He brought out a dummy, Rocco, who was
supposedly their long

623
00:45:26,580 --> 00:45:28,550
-lost... childhood doll.

624
00:45:28,850 --> 00:45:30,470
What is this?

625
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:38,150
Animal. Hey, what is this? That's Rocko.
And now Rocko the dummy was

626
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:42,330
supposedly going to inspire Hawk and
Animal, take them to higher heights.

627
00:45:42,570 --> 00:45:46,890
All this rubble, we got one piece of
memory left.

628
00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:53,710
By then, their biggest positive, money
-wise, was their merchandise sales.

629
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,660
Well, I wanted something that would help
sell a lot of merchandise.

630
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:02,060
And I thought we could do that with
Rocco dolls.

631
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,980
Remember the Rocco thing? We didn't even
talk about that, right?

632
00:46:07,660 --> 00:46:08,660
Oh, man.

633
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,740
Can I take him? I want to take him to
the ring.

634
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:14,540
He can be our mascot. Let's take him
everywhere.

635
00:46:14,780 --> 00:46:17,180
I can't believe an animal after all
these years.

636
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,280
I remember talking to Joe at the time
how much he couldn't stand that dummy.

637
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:31,420
Both Hawk and Animal hated that dummy.

638
00:46:31,780 --> 00:46:34,120
Hey, check out the haircut.

639
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:40,420
I would like to point out, I had
absolutely nothing to do with Rocco.

640
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,220
Oh, you guys have sure changed.

641
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,800
I gotta tell you, I thought it was
rotten.

642
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,520
I'm sorry, it was rotten.

643
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,020
Rocco did not belong with the Legion of
Doom.

644
00:46:58,620 --> 00:47:01,380
You got these two badasses.

645
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,960
Hi,

646
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:08,580
I'm Rocco. I'm your friend from when you
were a little kid.

647
00:47:08,780 --> 00:47:13,560
It just made absolutely no sense to me
whatsoever.

648
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,120
The development wasn't there.

649
00:47:17,420 --> 00:47:21,780
It didn't get what it needed from
creatives.

650
00:47:22,350 --> 00:47:25,050
We are the merchants of destruction.

651
00:47:26,070 --> 00:47:28,690
I would have fought to the death to not
do that.

652
00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:33,390
Eventually, Rocco somehow disappeared.

653
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:35,710
Trevor.

654
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:57,800
SummerSlam 92 was gigantic for the WWE
because it was truly an international

655
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:03,460
event. This was the beginning of the WWE
going worldwide.

656
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,860
82 ,000 people in Wembley Stadium in
England.

657
00:48:08,620 --> 00:48:10,780
I mean, that's a WrestleMania crowd.

658
00:48:11,740 --> 00:48:18,440
If you mess up the WWE, they don't look
at you the same way.

659
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:24,240
They're sticking millions of dollars of
investment money in you.

660
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,460
And we built up to it so much, months
and months of interviews and time spent,

661
00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:32,000
because you want it to be nothing but
the best.

662
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:33,560
It's just going to be the big thing.

663
00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:37,080
Money, Inc. against Hawk and Animal in
the Road Wars. It's going to be a big

664
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,480
night for us, and we're all excited.

665
00:48:38,940 --> 00:48:42,820
It's SummerSlam! It's SummerSlam! And I
can't wait, baby! Legion of Doom, don't

666
00:48:42,820 --> 00:48:46,120
think this is a chance for you to get
even with Money Incorporated and IRS.

667
00:48:46,660 --> 00:48:48,760
These are two of our major tag teams,
you know?

668
00:48:49,060 --> 00:48:51,260
Two of the biggest tag teams we've ever
had up there.

669
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:57,880
But then we get ready to go, and
Ellering comes to me and he goes, Oh, my

670
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,460
said, What's wrong? He goes, It's Hawk.

671
00:49:00,140 --> 00:49:01,580
He was not in good shape.

672
00:49:07,530 --> 00:49:09,790
How much do you want me to tell you
about that night?

673
00:49:12,130 --> 00:49:18,250
He was really unhappy with that little
puppet thing that they had going at that

674
00:49:18,250 --> 00:49:22,350
time and seemed to be in a very self
-destructive mood.

675
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:29,290
Hawk was by the sink and he just took
about four or five Placidyls and threw

676
00:49:29,290 --> 00:49:30,290
them in his mouth.

677
00:49:30,990 --> 00:49:36,630
I've never taken a Placidyl, but for
sedating a horse or elephant or

678
00:49:36,990 --> 00:49:38,590
You take enough of them, I'm sure
they'll kill you.

679
00:49:39,550 --> 00:49:41,390
I remember he stuck them out on his
tongue.

680
00:49:42,430 --> 00:49:47,650
They were all stuck to his tongue, and
then he just downed it with a drink.

681
00:49:48,430 --> 00:49:50,430
That's like suicide. Like, what are you
doing?

682
00:49:52,770 --> 00:49:58,430
What was terrifying was riding the
motorcycle out, because he was in no

683
00:49:58,430 --> 00:49:59,430
do that.

684
00:50:02,170 --> 00:50:03,170
It wasn't good.

685
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:10,420
Hawk was just a train wreck that day.

686
00:50:10,820 --> 00:50:13,360
I'm not sure Hawk ever knows where he's
at right now.

687
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:19,040
With Hawk, you never knew what you were
going to get. So we dealt with that as

688
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,000
best we could, and that's all I can say
about it.

689
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,880
It doesn't look much like Hawk. To me,
it looks more like an old dirty pigeon.

690
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,220
I felt so bad for Joe.

691
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,260
Imagine how frustrating that is for an
animal who's looking on. Sometimes Hawk,

692
00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:35,600
as a partner, really failed him. Ring
the bell!

693
00:50:38,140 --> 00:50:43,320
When you're a team, it's so important
that one half of that team doesn't let

694
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,320
other half down.

695
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,920
Everything with your career is tied in
with his.

696
00:50:48,740 --> 00:50:52,900
With Hawk, everybody really jumped in to
try to cover up what was going through

697
00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:53,900
and happening with him.

698
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:05,740
So we kind of pulled it

699
00:51:05,740 --> 00:51:06,740
out.

700
00:51:24,970 --> 00:51:27,830
You know, I wish it could have been a
lot better looking back if we could have

701
00:51:27,830 --> 00:51:28,830
done it over again.

702
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:33,970
Animal, Joe, he was very disappointed.

703
00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:37,330
Joe was a very proud man.

704
00:51:38,270 --> 00:51:42,690
He lived the road warrior gimmick. He
was proud of that.

705
00:51:42,910 --> 00:51:49,310
And now for it to be tarnished, that did
not sit good with him.

706
00:51:51,170 --> 00:51:54,530
After the match, Joe and I met at the
airport.

707
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:56,610
Hawk's not here.

708
00:51:57,470 --> 00:51:58,770
We flew back.

709
00:51:59,750 --> 00:52:03,810
At the next TV taping, which was shortly
after that event,

710
00:52:04,830 --> 00:52:06,470
Joe Laurinaitis is there.

711
00:52:07,390 --> 00:52:08,630
Animal's ready to go.

712
00:52:09,050 --> 00:52:14,090
Here is Animal of Legion of Doom!

713
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:18,750
Hawk's nowhere to be found.

714
00:52:25,140 --> 00:52:28,400
After SummerSlam, Hawk, he just walked
away.

715
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,520
Where's Hawk? I don't know.

716
00:52:31,820 --> 00:52:32,820
Where is he?

717
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,440
After that show, Hawk went.

718
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:43,720
He met up with some bikers in England,
and he disappeared for, I don't know,

719
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:44,720
or three weeks.

720
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:48,760
He disappeared, and there was all kinds
of rumors that he had taken off with the

721
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,400
Hells Angels, and it was just nobody
knew.

722
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,920
No one had heard from him.

723
00:52:55,340 --> 00:52:59,540
The last known place that he had landed
was in Amsterdam.

724
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,640
Well, Hawk, he was a cat who had 13
lives.

725
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:08,700
I knew he'd be alive.

726
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,140
I just didn't know where, and I was
hoping he wouldn't get hurt.

727
00:53:16,940 --> 00:53:21,540
Then, finally, he had his lawyer drop
something where he wasn't coming back to

728
00:53:21,540 --> 00:53:22,540
WWE.

729
00:53:26,180 --> 00:53:30,240
Hawk had called and talked to Vince, the
secretary at the time, and said, this

730
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:31,240
is Hawk.

731
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,680
I've had enough. I quit.

732
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:34,880
And that was it.

733
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:42,540
It's hard to say why Hawk would just
walk out on WWE at that time.

734
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:49,420
Despite whatever at SummerSlam 92,
despite Rocco the dummy, the Legion of

735
00:53:49,420 --> 00:53:50,800
were on top of the world.

736
00:53:51,380 --> 00:53:57,140
But when you have this side of you that
is just... desperate to rebel, it

737
00:53:57,140 --> 00:53:59,600
becomes real hard to silence that side.

738
00:54:00,660 --> 00:54:04,460
Now, everything they built up is gone.

739
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,080
Joel, he was disappointed.

740
00:54:08,860 --> 00:54:10,000
He was hurt.

741
00:54:10,860 --> 00:54:12,160
He was angry.

742
00:54:13,620 --> 00:54:15,120
He was devastated.

743
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,880
He was mad.

744
00:54:18,980 --> 00:54:20,720
Hey, I've got a family.

745
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,100
You know, I have kids.

746
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,840
Animal said, I'm so disappointed. I am
so hurt. We got a great tag team. We're

747
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,040
the biggest company in the world. And
now he goes and pulls this.

748
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,540
He said, that hurts not only him, but it
hurts me. It hurts my family. It hurts

749
00:54:35,540 --> 00:54:36,540
everybody.

750
00:54:37,340 --> 00:54:39,060
Felt like I was being deserted by my
partner.

751
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:44,940
He forgot that we're a team, and he made
a personal decision which affected a

752
00:54:44,940 --> 00:54:49,180
team. And you can't do that when you're
a member of a team. There's no I in

753
00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:50,180
team.

754
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,200
So now...

755
00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:56,220
Hulk's gone, and all of a sudden this
partner's dangling out there by himself,

756
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,000
and they had to put him with other
members and single matches.

757
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,680
Joe never really made it as a solo
performer.

758
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,960
I think people looked at it as a lesser
-than version.

759
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:17,120
It just didn't work, because people
wanted the original Road Warriors, the

760
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,480
original Legion of Doom.

761
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,920
You separate them.

762
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,920
They're just not as good as the sum of
both parts.

763
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:29,080
So, Animal needed Hawk.

764
00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:32,940
Joe, on his own, didn't have as much
success.

765
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,160
That's just the way it was.

766
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,700
It just wasn't as important to Hawk.

767
00:55:39,220 --> 00:55:44,220
Hawk didn't need Joe as much as Joe
needed Hawk.

768
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,020
I ain't saying that on camera because,
like, you know.

769
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,320
He was going to try to make it work.

770
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:58,540
But I can't imagine him not being with
Hawk.

771
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:09,820
At that point, Hawk decides to go to
Japan and tag with Japanese wrestler Ken

772
00:56:09,820 --> 00:56:10,820
Sasaki.

773
00:56:11,340 --> 00:56:16,580
When Hawk went to Japan with Sasaki,
they did a road warrior clone.

774
00:56:19,180 --> 00:56:23,300
Joe was very, very upset about it. Kind
of like a stab in the back, you know.

775
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:28,500
I wasn't sure at that point that they
would ever, you know, would ever be back

776
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:29,319
to normal.

777
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,760
You know, you can make that right.

778
00:56:31,420 --> 00:56:34,060
It kind of had maybe taken a little bit
too far.

779
00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:39,540
Hawk being heavy in his addiction at the
time, instead of saying, hey, I screwed

780
00:56:39,540 --> 00:56:44,520
up and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you
know, he just went, oh, I didn't do

781
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,520
anything wrong.

782
00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:48,740
At that point, I was really pissed at
him.

783
00:56:49,660 --> 00:56:52,860
I wasn't so much against him doing it. I
was against him going without asking me

784
00:56:52,860 --> 00:56:53,900
to go with him.

785
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,480
He should know after all those years
that anybody that was going to have his

786
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:57,480
back was going to be me.

787
00:56:59,660 --> 00:57:04,480
At the time Joe had injured his back,
that one was pretty bad.

788
00:57:04,740 --> 00:57:08,360
You know, it's one of those where you're
like, do I keep going or should I maybe

789
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,360
take some time off?

790
00:57:09,620 --> 00:57:10,620
And I think...

791
00:57:11,050 --> 00:57:15,350
With the situation that was going on
with Hawk and with him having to do

792
00:57:15,350 --> 00:57:19,230
singles, and it was just kind of a
perfect storm for a perfect time off.

793
00:57:20,690 --> 00:57:22,010
Put your arms up, James.

794
00:57:23,810 --> 00:57:26,270
Hey, like Daddy does in the ring.

795
00:57:26,590 --> 00:57:29,050
At that time, he was away from
wrestling.

796
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:33,590
Every game, every practice, any school
event, anything that we were doing, he

797
00:57:33,590 --> 00:57:34,590
was just always there.

798
00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:38,650
I just think it's...

799
00:57:39,210 --> 00:57:41,370
A true testament as to who he was.

800
00:57:41,850 --> 00:57:42,850
He was a dad.

801
00:57:44,970 --> 00:57:51,390
As far as Joe and Mike go, I would say
that it was probably over a year

802
00:57:51,390 --> 00:57:57,070
that they did not speak to one another
because of that stab in the back, you

803
00:57:57,070 --> 00:57:59,970
know. Joe was very hurt by it, very
upset by it.

804
00:58:01,050 --> 00:58:04,030
So we talked a lot about, you know,
quitting.

805
00:58:04,530 --> 00:58:07,030
We talked about, you know, getting a
normal job.

806
00:58:09,090 --> 00:58:14,990
That pull, I think, of being Road
Warrior Animal and the business was just

807
00:58:14,990 --> 00:58:15,990
strong.

808
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:23,570
Mike realized that the beauty of them
was together, not separate.

809
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:36,830
It's almost like they got divorced, but
they needed to reunite.

810
00:58:37,130 --> 00:58:40,330
to get back together again because they
were meant to be kind of a thing.

811
00:58:40,850 --> 00:58:45,110
But I think they were just drawn, drawn
to the business, drawn to each other.

812
00:58:45,530 --> 00:58:48,270
It's like, you know, having a fight with
your brother, you know.

813
00:58:49,010 --> 00:58:52,010
You're mad at each other for a while,
and you make up because you love each

814
00:58:52,010 --> 00:58:53,010
other, you know.

815
00:58:53,350 --> 00:58:55,310
So they loved each other.

816
00:58:56,770 --> 00:58:57,770
They were brothers.

817
00:58:59,010 --> 00:59:00,990
No matter what happens, you're brothers.

818
00:59:03,490 --> 00:59:05,250
It was a blood thing with them.

819
00:59:06,690 --> 00:59:11,450
It took Hoff to learn for a while who
his true best friend in the wrestling

820
00:59:11,450 --> 00:59:13,190
business was, and it was me all along.

821
00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:16,590
Because I stuck with him through thick
and thin. I stuck with him because I

822
00:59:16,590 --> 00:59:19,590
believed in him. And he was my partner,
and I loved him, and I grew up with him.

823
00:59:19,630 --> 00:59:22,890
I grew in the business with him. My
family learned to love him and grew with

824
00:59:22,890 --> 00:59:23,828
and loved him.

825
00:59:23,830 --> 00:59:27,010
So I said, let's just try it again and
see what happens.

826
00:59:34,860 --> 00:59:41,640
In 1996, we met with both of them, and
Animal and Hawk seemed

827
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:47,400
like they were in a really good place,
and they expressed to us the desire that

828
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,280
they really did want to come back.

829
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,620
Coming up next, we have a huge surprise
right here on Raw.

830
00:59:54,980 --> 00:59:58,680
It was one of those, look, we're going
to try this. If it works, great.

831
00:59:58,900 --> 01:00:02,060
If it doesn't work, then we're going to
cut bait.

832
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:24,940
It's cool when you've established
yourself to a point that you can go away

833
01:00:24,940 --> 01:00:25,940
be missed.

834
01:00:28,660 --> 01:00:35,100
And then when you come back, people are
super hyped to see, oh my God, these are

835
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:36,100
my guys, they're bad.

836
01:00:37,819 --> 01:00:42,420
And that energy carries, and they still
have the same energy, just like they

837
01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:43,420
never left.

838
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,060
For me, it was even cooler because I
just hadn't seen them in a while.

839
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,740
LOD had some great moments when they
came back in 1997.

840
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,160
Winning the tag titles.

841
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:05,620
To see them in the ring together was
fun.

842
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,320
And their charisma was so good with each
other and the wrestling, good

843
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:16,060
wrestling. But for me, I think it was
more about the trust.

844
01:01:17,060 --> 01:01:18,280
Can we trust him?

845
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,880
Are we going to be able to trust that
he's going to show up or that he's going

846
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:23,880
to be sober?

847
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:30,700
Animal gave Hawk another shot because
they were so closely bonded together.

848
01:01:31,780 --> 01:01:34,960
But Animal sort of was...

849
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:38,050
waiting for the next meltdown for Hawk.

850
01:01:39,570 --> 01:01:43,630
You know, it's like nobody could stop
it. He was going to self -destruct, he

851
01:01:43,630 --> 01:01:46,470
going to self -destruct, and it didn't
matter what the consequences were.

852
01:01:46,850 --> 01:01:51,770
It didn't matter how it affected
everything else that maybe Joe had on

853
01:01:52,530 --> 01:01:55,910
Like, whatever happens to Hawk affects
him.

854
01:01:56,850 --> 01:01:58,670
That was kind of the sad part about it.

855
01:02:01,850 --> 01:02:05,190
Hawk was really, like, he was going
through a rough spell then.

856
01:02:07,070 --> 01:02:11,310
It just made you sad, you know, and you
try to look out for him because he was

857
01:02:11,310 --> 01:02:12,770
the kind that would look out for you.

858
01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:18,850
It's Hawk, man. He deserves our respect,
and we need to look out for him.

859
01:02:23,970 --> 01:02:27,450
Sometimes it's a good thing to work in.

860
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:35,120
real -life situations into the creative
because you can feel it and it

861
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,120
is real.

862
01:02:36,580 --> 01:02:43,520
In this particular case, we took Hawk's
real -life

863
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:49,240
addiction and real -life issues that he
was dealing with on a daily basis and

864
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,380
put it on screen.

865
01:02:51,020 --> 01:02:53,260
He's walking drunk, it looks like.

866
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,560
Not only falling off the wagon, but the
wagon is running over.

867
01:02:58,900 --> 01:02:59,940
I hate it.

868
01:03:01,980 --> 01:03:08,640
I hate it when they use this addiction
and storyline stuff.

869
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:14,560
It was

870
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:20,200
painful. You know, it was painful.

871
01:03:22,300 --> 01:03:25,200
It didn't help him with any issues.

872
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,920
It was just like, what are you doing?

873
01:03:29,180 --> 01:03:30,180
Look at you!

874
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,000
Look at you! I didn't like it.

875
01:03:33,380 --> 01:03:35,540
And I know Animal didn't like it.

876
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,660
Things he had them doing on live on TV.

877
01:03:38,860 --> 01:03:42,820
He said, this is too close to home, man.
This is opening up some old wounds

878
01:03:42,820 --> 01:03:43,820
we're trying to put away.

879
01:03:44,460 --> 01:03:49,020
I don't think Hawk can even defend
himself here. And if Hawk would have

880
01:03:49,020 --> 01:03:50,640
don't like it, well, that would have
been perfect.

881
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,040
But he said, I'll do it.

882
01:03:52,420 --> 01:03:53,600
So we did it.

883
01:03:55,300 --> 01:04:02,240
In addition to that, we introduced
another character in Draws where the

884
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:08,920
if Hawk can't work, because Hawk was
dealing with issues, well, you've got

885
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:14,740
Draws that can now be a part of the
Legion of Doom with Animal.

886
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,600
Nice teamwork there by Draws and Animal.

887
01:04:18,430 --> 01:04:22,450
Remember Hawk from his problem with
painkillers is now an alternate.

888
01:04:22,950 --> 01:04:29,050
Anytime you do that, it doesn't work.
The audience doesn't accept it. They

889
01:04:29,050 --> 01:04:30,050
the original.

890
01:04:30,750 --> 01:04:35,690
Well, let's just say that dwelling on
the past is something the old LOD would

891
01:04:35,690 --> 01:04:38,050
do. They want their guys, man.

892
01:04:39,410 --> 01:04:41,750
Draws and Animal were not the Legion of
Doom.

893
01:04:42,170 --> 01:04:43,990
Oh, what a rush.

894
01:04:44,450 --> 01:04:47,190
Hawk, you know, like, he wasn't happy.

895
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:49,920
He was trying to be a pro.

896
01:04:51,420 --> 01:04:54,660
There's Hawk right there. What is he
doing? I thought he was going to come

897
01:04:54,680 --> 01:05:01,160
He's climbing up on the Titan Tron. The
storyline culminated when Hawk is now

898
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,060
threatening to jump off the Titan Tron.

899
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,240
Hawk has threatened to jump.

900
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:12,800
Droz climbs up to help Hawk to get him
down. Get up!

901
01:05:13,020 --> 01:05:16,700
And then they do this thing where Droz
puts his hands on Hawk.

902
01:05:17,259 --> 01:05:19,020
Don't touch it! Don't touch it!

903
01:05:19,740 --> 01:05:22,560
Get his shirt! Oh!

904
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:24,520
Every

905
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:31,980
fan

906
01:05:31,980 --> 01:05:38,540
hated it, I think, and as a family, it
bothered me, you know, but I guess I

907
01:05:38,540 --> 01:05:41,140
thought there might have been a better
ending to it than how it ended.

908
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,940
The audience didn't believe it.

909
01:05:45,260 --> 01:05:52,260
And the audience didn't want it. And as
far as Hawk went, the

910
01:05:52,260 --> 01:05:54,500
audience just felt sad for Hawk.

911
01:05:55,320 --> 01:06:01,960
This character who was once just this
invincible force of

912
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:06,240
pure and utter destruction is now almost
pathetic.

913
01:06:07,220 --> 01:06:10,980
It was another negative to be brought
up.

914
01:06:11,260 --> 01:06:14,580
And when you lose your respect,

915
01:06:15,500 --> 01:06:20,280
And your pride, that's a lot in this
business.

916
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:26,940
Maybe a look at reality is the end here.

917
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,960
If it isn't, it's close.

918
01:06:35,420 --> 01:06:42,360
The sad fact was,

919
01:06:44,170 --> 01:06:46,590
Legion of Doom wasn't the Legion of Doom
anymore.

920
01:06:47,770 --> 01:06:50,430
Father Time does no jobs.

921
01:06:51,150 --> 01:06:54,090
And Father Time, it hit them.

922
01:06:55,270 --> 01:07:01,090
And during that time period, the
Attitude Era is exploding.

923
01:07:01,490 --> 01:07:08,190
There's new massive stars that are
popping up every single week on Monday

924
01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:11,250
Raw. So the Legion of Doom...

925
01:07:11,770 --> 01:07:16,330
I think they were more looked at as kind
of a washed -up old team because this

926
01:07:16,330 --> 01:07:17,510
is now a young man's time.

927
01:07:21,850 --> 01:07:27,370
They would have made a nice little year
or two run and retire as champs, you

928
01:07:27,370 --> 01:07:28,870
know, in a fairytale world.

929
01:07:29,250 --> 01:07:32,630
But unfortunately, you know, we don't
live in a fairytale world and that's not

930
01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:33,630
going to happen.

931
01:07:34,670 --> 01:07:37,970
So, unfortunately, we left WWE.

932
01:07:40,330 --> 01:07:44,950
When their contracts weren't renewed,
they were not quite ready to hang up the

933
01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:46,990
boots. They hit the independents.

934
01:07:50,590 --> 01:07:55,690
In 2000, Hawk and Animal are bouncing
around the independent circuit in

935
01:07:55,690 --> 01:07:56,690
Australia.

936
01:07:57,370 --> 01:08:03,670
And one night, Hawk collapses with a
medical emergency, a heart issue.

937
01:08:05,810 --> 01:08:07,630
It was the toll of all the drugs.

938
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:12,180
that he had done over the years and not
taking care of himself the way he should

939
01:08:12,180 --> 01:08:13,180
have.

940
01:08:13,860 --> 01:08:16,020
Animal got him to the hospital.

941
01:08:16,460 --> 01:08:18,899
They wanted to keep him. They wouldn't
let him out.

942
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:25,160
And Animal took him out because Hawk
said, I can't stay here. I just can't. I

943
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,560
don't want to die here.

944
01:08:27,300 --> 01:08:29,420
And he lived in Florida now.

945
01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:36,380
So Animal flew him back to Tampa, and
Animal went back to Minneapolis.

946
01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:39,800
And that was it.

947
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:47,220
Mike was looking at life after wrestling
and trying to figure out what to do.

948
01:08:48,540 --> 01:08:53,439
Announcing or doing something and trying
to figure out next steps.

949
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,060
He was working out with me every
morning.

950
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:01,580
One of the girls there that did aerobics
was this gorgeous, dark -haired lady

951
01:09:01,580 --> 01:09:02,580
named Dale.

952
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,220
And Hawk, well, Hawk, get over there.

953
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,080
So I introduced him, you know.

954
01:09:08,779 --> 01:09:12,920
I said, Dale, I don't know if you
remember Hawk or not, but he wants to

955
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,080
out. So they ended up going out.

956
01:09:15,939 --> 01:09:17,899
And they ended up marrying her.

957
01:09:19,220 --> 01:09:23,540
She was a great influence on him in a
huge part of his life.

958
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:29,899
He loved her a lot. She loved him a lot.
And they were, I think, good for each

959
01:09:29,899 --> 01:09:30,899
other.

960
01:09:31,899 --> 01:09:35,680
At the time, Joe, he did a lot of
independent wrestling.

961
01:09:36,440 --> 01:09:38,300
But he never really liked it.

962
01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:42,120
You know, when you don't have that
person in the corner that you've kind of

963
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:47,240
always relied on, whether he's reliable
or not, he was, you know, they had gone

964
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,240
through a lot together.

965
01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:52,580
You can't have Rotary Animal without
Hawk.

966
01:09:53,300 --> 01:09:54,780
You couldn't have one without the other.

967
01:09:59,660 --> 01:10:00,740
One day...

968
01:10:01,350 --> 01:10:07,150
I invited Joe to a conference out in
Phoenix, Arizona. It's called AIM,

969
01:10:07,150 --> 01:10:12,110
International Ministries for College and
Professional Christian Athletes.

970
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:15,990
Joe immediately said, can I invite Mike?
I want to invite Mike.

971
01:10:17,810 --> 01:10:22,870
I'm like, Joe, you know it's like a
Christian conference, right? And he

972
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:26,030
know, but I just feel like I'm supposed
to invite him.

973
01:10:26,490 --> 01:10:30,130
I'm like, well, by all means, invite him
then.

974
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:39,500
And he called me back, and he said, man,
he wants to come.

975
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:49,700
That first night, Mike's whole
personality, attitude, everything

976
01:10:49,700 --> 01:10:50,700
changed.

977
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,760
Oh, my gosh, like there's a genuine
change in this man.

978
01:10:55,460 --> 01:10:59,680
There was a sense of genuineness about
him, a sense of joy.

979
01:11:00,300 --> 01:11:06,300
that he maybe didn't have prior to that,
and a change, not just a change of

980
01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:08,420
attitude, but a heart change.

981
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:18,000
After that, he was just trying to
straighten up all

982
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,740
around. And here we are.

983
01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:27,460
Finally, he was ready for that, and Paul
got clean and

984
01:11:27,460 --> 01:11:28,460
sober.

985
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:33,720
which is a great story on Hawk Whip.
Nobody thought Hawk would ever pull it

986
01:11:35,420 --> 01:11:37,180
It was like night and day.

987
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:43,460
It was just a wonderful thing to see. It
was a miracle.

988
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,240
It took us all by surprise, and
obviously in a good way.

989
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,080
He just seemed really happy.

990
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,980
Life will be good. You have Dale, you
have your place in Florida, everything.

991
01:11:59,420 --> 01:12:04,540
It seemed like it was falling into
place, knowing that, okay, you don't

992
01:12:04,540 --> 01:12:06,500
worry so much about Mike anymore.

993
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:13,600
The road he was on is no longer the road
he is on.

994
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:20,720
Now he's on a new road. On this road, he
will fulfill his life and his

995
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:21,920
destiny in life.

996
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,800
September 2003, I got to spend time with
Hawk.

997
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:42,120
We just sat there and soaked up some sun
and talked about the

998
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:46,200
old days and where we can go from here.

999
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,880
It was Saturday morning.

1000
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:51,860
He was getting ready to move.

1001
01:12:52,580 --> 01:12:56,480
He calls me up and goes, I got to get
right in here. I got to go help Dale

1002
01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:00,040
and help her move. He goes, I'll call
you back later tonight. He goes, Joe.

1003
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,000
I said, what? He goes, I love you.

1004
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,740
He goes, you know that, don't you? I
said, yeah, man, I know that.

1005
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,980
I said, brother, I love you too, Mike.

1006
01:13:08,220 --> 01:13:09,220
I said, I'll talk to you tonight.

1007
01:13:22,259 --> 01:13:23,259
Yeah.

1008
01:13:25,220 --> 01:13:26,920
I always get this way.

1009
01:13:31,660 --> 01:13:36,220
Mike and Dale,

1010
01:13:36,380 --> 01:13:43,200
they were moving, you know, and they
were moving a lot of

1011
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:49,520
furniture and boxes and stuff. And from
what I understand, he wasn't feeling

1012
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:50,580
well, you know.

1013
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:58,340
He said, I'm tired, I don't feel real
good or something, and laid down.

1014
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,360
And, you know, yeah.

1015
01:14:08,060 --> 01:14:13,200
I think an hour later, Dale went in and
he had passed.

1016
01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:20,920
The guy with the big heart dies.

1017
01:14:22,570 --> 01:14:23,570
What a heart attack.

1018
01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:33,070
Yeah, the hardest part was just, you

1019
01:14:33,070 --> 01:14:36,910
know, didn't expect him to die.

1020
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:49,950
All the times that he could have died in
his life, it was unexpected, which

1021
01:14:49,950 --> 01:14:50,950
sounds crazy.

1022
01:14:55,660 --> 01:14:56,660
Joe's phone rang.

1023
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:57,960
It was Dale.

1024
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:05,980
He just, like, like, collapsed. He,
like, just, like, fell to the ground.

1025
01:15:07,140 --> 01:15:13,680
Joe told me when he got that phone call
that Mike had passed away, he said he

1026
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,940
sat down and he just cried like a baby.

1027
01:15:19,860 --> 01:15:22,420
Animal called me up, said,

1028
01:15:23,980 --> 01:15:25,080
Hawk is gone.

1029
01:15:31,020 --> 01:15:33,300
And I cried and cried.

1030
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:39,540
It was hard.

1031
01:15:45,660 --> 01:15:48,720
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
We're live here on Raw this past Sunday

1032
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,680
morning. Road Warrior Hawk passed away
unexpected at the age of 46.

1033
01:15:56,220 --> 01:16:02,020
Even though he had gotten clean, I
think, as we all know, that kind of

1034
01:16:02,020 --> 01:16:06,500
was strained on his heart. It caught up
with him at a time when he had gotten

1035
01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:08,260
clean. So that was kind of sad.

1036
01:16:08,500 --> 01:16:10,940
We definitely lost him way too early.

1037
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,000
Hawk was a nice guy.

1038
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:20,300
So it was just a really, really tough
one.

1039
01:16:24,940 --> 01:16:30,080
Growing up in the 60s, I don't remember
my

1040
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,800
dad ever giving me a hug.

1041
01:16:35,140 --> 01:16:38,340
And Mike brought that back.

1042
01:16:39,980 --> 01:16:45,740
He got our dad to hug us, and we hugged
our dad.

1043
01:16:47,620 --> 01:16:49,260
And we hugged each other.

1044
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:52,900
That's the way I remember it.

1045
01:16:58,470 --> 01:17:02,310
My brother Hawk, man, I'm telling you,
there's not a day that goes by that I do

1046
01:17:02,310 --> 01:17:03,730
not think about that man.

1047
01:17:05,530 --> 01:17:10,090
I knew Hawk better than anybody. If I
could explain the connection that Hawk

1048
01:17:10,090 --> 01:17:16,990
I had, I would, but I can't explain it.
And Hawk, we fed off

1049
01:17:16,990 --> 01:17:20,430
each other, man. It was one mind, one
team, one body.

1050
01:17:21,250 --> 01:17:24,610
And I will forever miss him and be dead.

1051
01:17:32,650 --> 01:17:37,830
that time we were in Missouri we lived
in Missouri for a long time my brother

1052
01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:43,170
was playing for the St. Louis Rams and
then we were down there for quite some

1053
01:17:43,170 --> 01:17:48,590
time that St. Louis really became our
home my dad he you know he did wrestling

1054
01:17:48,590 --> 01:17:52,650
appearances here and there you can tell
he definitely missed it but he continued

1055
01:17:52,650 --> 01:17:56,990
to be a family man and he was just a
grandpa to you know all of his little

1056
01:17:56,990 --> 01:18:01,320
grandkids and just loved that I mean he
wished he could have been living near

1057
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,420
everybody in his family and just we all
could have just lived on a compound

1058
01:18:04,420 --> 01:18:11,020
together and he would have been happy
when i had my son

1059
01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:16,500
jacob which was april 19 2011 my dad
ended up like

1060
01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:22,560
not being able to breathe like very well
so he ended up going into the hospital

1061
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:28,960
and he got diagnosed with congestive
heart failure but after that

1062
01:18:29,420 --> 01:18:33,100
He definitely was, like, hyper -focused
on his health and just trying to make

1063
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:35,360
sure that he was as healthy as he could
be.

1064
01:18:36,420 --> 01:18:42,060
It was his family, 100%. You know.

1065
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,120
Sorry.

1066
01:18:53,340 --> 01:18:57,840
She told me that he wanted to watch
Jacob grow up as his grandpa.

1067
01:18:59,690 --> 01:19:05,330
And he wanted to watch him play high
school sports and go to college and all

1068
01:19:05,330 --> 01:19:06,330
that stuff.

1069
01:19:06,550 --> 01:19:12,930
So at that moment, he wanted to be there
for him and for everybody else in the

1070
01:19:12,930 --> 01:19:19,190
family. And that was definitely what was
driving him.

1071
01:19:21,490 --> 01:19:27,330
There were times that I know he wasn't
feeling okay, but I know that he

1072
01:19:27,330 --> 01:19:29,230
pushed through it.

1073
01:19:29,500 --> 01:19:34,180
like every day, you know, just to be
there for us and whoever else needed

1074
01:19:34,220 --> 01:19:35,620
He was just determined to be there.

1075
01:19:39,980 --> 01:19:46,760
I knew Joe had some heart issues, but I
didn't know just how serious they

1076
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:47,760
were.

1077
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,200
It was September 22, 2020.

1078
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,040
She ended up going into...

1079
01:19:58,050 --> 01:20:02,510
The hospital, he was having a heart
attack.

1080
01:20:04,830 --> 01:20:09,310
I remember at one point, they told me
that they had been, like, trying to

1081
01:20:09,310 --> 01:20:10,970
him for, like, 30 minutes.

1082
01:20:14,630 --> 01:20:17,310
And I knew at that point he wasn't going
to make it.

1083
01:20:20,590 --> 01:20:21,590
I just knew.

1084
01:20:22,370 --> 01:20:23,730
You know, it's just that feeling.

1085
01:20:27,510 --> 01:20:32,090
Seeing him laying there on that table,
just knowing he wasn't coming back.

1086
01:20:36,270 --> 01:20:40,390
I just like fell to the floor. My whole
world just,

1087
01:20:40,510 --> 01:20:43,890
just stopped.

1088
01:20:48,790 --> 01:20:52,730
I didn't think I was going to get upset,
but it was a very, she was very

1089
01:20:52,730 --> 01:20:53,730
emotional.

1090
01:20:55,980 --> 01:20:59,620
The Minnesota professional wrestler
known as Animal has died.

1091
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,480
Joe Laurinaitis died at the age of 60.

1092
01:21:02,860 --> 01:21:05,840
TMZ is reporting his death was from
natural causes.

1093
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:11,560
To get that call of his passing was
heart -wrenching.

1094
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:20,420
I saw Hawk a month before he died, and I
saw Joe a month before he died.

1095
01:21:22,700 --> 01:21:24,520
I never got to say goodbye.

1096
01:21:31,740 --> 01:21:37,860
Well, we're going to the hockey rink to
go meet my son and play a little hockey.

1097
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:43,140
I've got to still try to school him a
little bit, you know, because I still

1098
01:21:43,140 --> 01:21:46,260
him I'm better than him, but I don't
know, he's pretty good.

1099
01:21:47,580 --> 01:21:47,980
The

1100
01:21:47,980 --> 01:21:54,760
way

1101
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,720
that my dad raised us was just to love
each other.

1102
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,920
You know, and of course, everybody's
parents.

1103
01:22:01,210 --> 01:22:05,370
I think, a little differently than,
like, how they were raised. But I catch

1104
01:22:05,370 --> 01:22:07,010
myself. I'm the same way with Jacob.

1105
01:22:07,630 --> 01:22:08,910
Let's pass around a little, huh?

1106
01:22:10,250 --> 01:22:11,290
Oh, yeah.

1107
01:22:12,410 --> 01:22:13,830
That love for family.

1108
01:22:14,610 --> 01:22:17,930
I just don't know anything different
than that. That's literally all I was

1109
01:22:17,930 --> 01:22:18,930
to.

1110
01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:23,550
My dad, he's just in the back of my
mind, you know, all the time. Just what

1111
01:22:23,550 --> 01:22:24,990
would he do or what would he say?

1112
01:22:25,330 --> 01:22:26,330
Can you rip it?

1113
01:22:27,130 --> 01:22:28,590
And, of course...

1114
01:22:28,810 --> 01:22:32,830
The dedication, the hard work, like just
teaching the work ethic, I've

1115
01:22:32,830 --> 01:22:36,290
definitely kind of instilled that in
Jacob. And I do explain it to him like,

1116
01:22:36,370 --> 01:22:39,990
hey, Papa would have done this. You know
what I mean? I kind of use that because

1117
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:44,450
there's a lot of stuff that my dad and,
of course, my mom taught us that it's

1118
01:22:44,450 --> 01:22:48,810
like you need to keep going. You need to
try to be the best. You need to try to

1119
01:22:48,810 --> 01:22:53,170
do this. And I definitely will have to
kind of throw Papa's name around a

1120
01:22:53,170 --> 01:22:55,210
bit just to get Jacob to listen to me.

1121
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:10,560
Go back to the early days at the gym and
Grandma B's and them crossing paths

1122
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:16,040
with one another, whether it be fate or
whatever else it is that brought the two

1123
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:20,340
of them together to go on to have this
legendary tag team career.

1124
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,900
It's pretty amazing to think about it
and look back on.

1125
01:23:26,740 --> 01:23:28,240
For the Road Warriors.

1126
01:23:28,620 --> 01:23:32,060
Brother, you talk about vicious, bizarre
individuals.

1127
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:39,440
I think the legacy would probably be...
And, brother, they are carnage

1128
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:40,580
unlimited. Oh, wow!

1129
01:23:41,140 --> 01:23:44,660
Nobody was tougher, nobody was stronger,
nobody was more intimidating.

1130
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,140
You want a piece of the Warriors?

1131
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:47,400
Hop in the ring.

1132
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,900
They made their own destiny.

1133
01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:52,800
What a moment for Legion of Doom!

1134
01:23:53,180 --> 01:23:54,580
They wrote the book.

1135
01:23:54,940 --> 01:23:55,940
Oh, look at this!

1136
01:23:57,180 --> 01:23:58,280
Forget about it!

1137
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,820
Then they lived the book.

1138
01:24:01,820 --> 01:24:03,720
They were the best of their time.

1139
01:24:04,140 --> 01:24:05,600
They were the best of all time.

1140
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:12,500
But the best things in life are not
things.

1141
01:24:13,140 --> 01:24:14,500
They're relationships.

1142
01:24:19,060 --> 01:24:24,560
Outside of being known as Animal and
Hawk, they were Joe and Mike.

1143
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,960
And they developed the loyalty to one
another.

1144
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,780
and stayed together through the highs
and lows, the thick and the thin.

1145
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:40,400
And it led to a long -lasting love for
one another.

1146
01:24:41,140 --> 01:24:45,560
Joe Laurinaitis and Mike Hegstrand were
true brothers.

1147
01:24:45,820 --> 01:24:51,660
They would have never found the success
they had in life without each other. The

1148
01:24:51,660 --> 01:24:54,300
road that they traveled was together.

1149
01:24:56,090 --> 01:24:59,390
They may have drifted apart at times,
but they always came back together.

1150
01:25:00,650 --> 01:25:04,510
They never really left each other. They
were really always there for each other

1151
01:25:04,510 --> 01:25:05,510
right to the end.

1152
01:25:08,750 --> 01:25:10,310
It's a lot of destiny.

1153
01:25:11,870 --> 01:25:14,270
The next thing you know, you're making
memories.

1154
01:25:16,630 --> 01:25:23,350
Of all the things in the world, it's the
memories that

1155
01:25:23,350 --> 01:25:24,350
matter.

1156
01:25:25,740 --> 01:25:27,020
The boys are smiling.